My 2015 LC did do this until BMW did a firmware update to my bike, problem solved
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My 2015 LC did do this until BMW did a firmware update to my bike, problem solved
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That the trouble with having a ride on quicker bikes than the one you own...
How do you know what other bikes I have ?
My 2015 LC did do this until BMW did a firmware update to my bike, problem solved
My twin cam cut out a few times when I first got it- Either it grew out of it or I rode around it, but for sure it stopped being a problem.
Conclusion
Some will go to Hilltop , some will not
Some say it makes the bike run better, some do not
Some say it increases bhp, some do not.
These threads are getting to be a bore because they go on and on and on.
Some will go to Hilltop , some will not
Some say it makes the bike run better, some do not
Some say it increases bhp, some do not.
These threads are getting to be a bore because they go on and on and on.
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Some girls will.
Some girls won't
Some girls won't
It strikes me that those that have had it done feel it has transformed their bike in a positive way, those that choose not to believe it seem to be those that either can't afford to have it done or simply don't want to have it done. That's fine, you pays your money and all that but being in denial about it's positive effect seems a strange one to me, maybe a little jealousy creeping in?
I had a conversation with an LC owner yesterday who has had the Hilltop treatment, he's very impressed with it. Out of curiosity he then took advantage of a discounted rolling road appraisal at a completely independent engine tuner. When the appraisal was finished the technician approached him asking who'd worked on the bike previously as the fuelling and power curve were flawless. He very candidly admitted that he couldn't get it any better. You can't get a more honest appraisal without rose tinted specs than that!
I had a conversation with an LC owner yesterday who has had the Hilltop treatment, he's very impressed with it. Out of curiosity he then took advantage of a discounted rolling road appraisal at a completely independent engine tuner. When the appraisal was finished the technician approached him asking who'd worked on the bike previously as the fuelling and power curve were flawless. He very candidly admitted that he couldn't get it any better. You can't get a more honest appraisal without rose tinted specs than that!
It's a win from CT
I have never argued that a re-map is either a good or bad thing, if you like the results then great and I am happy that people are happy with what they have got - there is nothing wrong with that and I don't give a stuff about the cost. My only gripe with the whole re-mapping thing is the lack of definitive technical information available from any of the re-mappers and their reluctance to to say what the compromises are - and there will be compromises. They are being 'economical with the actualie' to quote a dodgy politician
I have never argued that a re-map is either a good or bad thing, if you like the results then great and I am happy that people are happy with what they have got - there is nothing wrong with that and I don't give a stuff about the cost. My only gripe with the whole re-mapping thing is the lack of definitive technical information available from any of the re-mappers and their reluctance to to say what the compromises are - and there will be compromises. They are being 'economical with the actualie' to quote a dodgy politician
Why do you need to know the technical ins and outs so badly? Most people couldn't give a stuff. You say there are compromises, but there has been no evidence of any compromises in ANY Hilltop thread.
I have never argued that a re-map is either a good or bad thing, if you like the results then great and I am happy that people are happy with what they have got - there is nothing wrong with that and I don't give a stuff about the cost. My only gripe with the whole re-mapping thing is the lack of definitive technical information available from any of the re-mappers and their reluctance to to say what the compromises are - and there will be compromises. They are being 'economical with the actualie' to quote a dodgy politician
Well that's OK then, and if you want to know all the details then fair enough, however the solution is really simple as all you have to do is pick up the phone and have a chat with one of them (a certain bloke called Geoff springs to mind)
Better still - you're not that far from Hilltop, so why not take a nice ride over and meet the man himself? You might find some of the answers you seek by meeting him and having a chat.
You could even
go over and get him to do a remap on your bike and experience it for yourself. If it doesn't work and you are unhappy with the compromises then you can simply have your bike restored back to standard and your money refunded in full! 
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I know you like to think it is but, it's not all about you.......................
Quite a few people on the numerous other threads have questioned Hilltop's figures.
But he's allegedly PM'd Geoff not once, but twice. What more can a boy do?
Andres
The thing that really pisses me off with these hilltop threads is Engineer and his incessant input asking questions that only Geoff can answer and his refusal to actually get them answered !
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I have started a reply to this thread on a couple of occasions, and quite frankly aghast at the wilful ignorance on display.
Standard maps are designed primarily to meet homologation targets for emissions, if this is not your overriding priority, you can adjust fuel and spark to get closer to MBT (Maximum Brake Torque).
Broadly speaking, compromises are :
Emissions and emissions equipment life.
Durability/octane sensitivity.
The actual risks involved here are unquantified, although empirical evidence from users suggests that the engine/transmission is robust enough to make a bit more from its bangs.
My position on this is I tend not to bugger about with stuff in warranty unless its bloody awful (2006 Yamaha FZ-1S I'm looking at you!), but after that it's game on!
I used to have a limited bugger about with maps on my triumph, but didn't have a gas analyser/dyno, so kept my dabbling to where I could do no harm.
As for the specifics of what Hilltop do, I don't know their process, but you are a phone call/visit away from having your questions answered (unless you are trying to wheedle trade secrets). I would suggest doing that before posting the same stuff over and again on here otherwise you sir, are trolling.
Standard maps are designed primarily to meet homologation targets for emissions, if this is not your overriding priority, you can adjust fuel and spark to get closer to MBT (Maximum Brake Torque).
Broadly speaking, compromises are :
Emissions and emissions equipment life.
Durability/octane sensitivity.
The actual risks involved here are unquantified, although empirical evidence from users suggests that the engine/transmission is robust enough to make a bit more from its bangs.
My position on this is I tend not to bugger about with stuff in warranty unless its bloody awful (2006 Yamaha FZ-1S I'm looking at you!), but after that it's game on!
I used to have a limited bugger about with maps on my triumph, but didn't have a gas analyser/dyno, so kept my dabbling to where I could do no harm.
As for the specifics of what Hilltop do, I don't know their process, but you are a phone call/visit away from having your questions answered (unless you are trying to wheedle trade secrets). I would suggest doing that before posting the same stuff over and again on here otherwise you sir, are trolling.
I agree but it is both equally wilful and blissful one suspects!
I have asked questions both on open forums and by two messages, but no answer as yet - I have tried, so it is not me who is refusing, so please do make stuff up.
I will try to find another more forthcoming 're-mapper'.
conkerman
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No.
Just No.
Put up or shut up!
Just No.
Put up or shut up!
I have put up and now await.
conkerman
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Weapons grade
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