Pointless electronics
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jonnyp
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That's more like it
When I bought my first new GS they were far from mainstream
They were weird, quirky & different - but they were excellent 2 wheel travelling machines
There were no Twat suits ( we did have Rukka but they weren't mainstream either)
There was no Touratech
Wunderlich operated from a shed by a railway line & were more famous for developing performance parts for the mighty XT500
Wudo were the BMW aftermarket parts & styling creators
Crud catchers would have been frowned on
Metal boxes for panniers were not mass market & if fitted would have been made in the shed, at home
Plastic panniers were all the choice you had, but at least they didn't leak
GPS wasn't invented, so not used & thus maps were the tourists friend
Modes were of the Depeche variety, but not bluetoothed via an IPod
Life wasn't all bad though
Think I'm hearing violins ..... Did you eat hovis too?
What you mean ?
Did eat Hovis? I still eat Hovis
A treat is Prawn Cocktail followed by Black Forest gateau, washed down with Liebfraumilch
Rock & roll
I have no issue with more GS on the road, none of em are as cool as mine.
The new bike lacks the character that I like in the old bike, but things move on. I've ridden pretty much every gs/GS and the 1150 is the one for me.
I find the electronics detract from the new bike. If I can get to ride a non electric version I may be tempted, but then it's alot of money to lose my license a little bit quicker
It's interesting to see that some have ordered basic bikes, I think they will possibly have the better bike (especially if they ordered wire wheels).
The test bikes are always high spec to fool you into thinking it's the way forward, plough your own furrow and don't be duped into spending 2k on extras. Only my opinion, but might make some one about to order think twice before ticking every extras box
The new bike lacks the character that I like in the old bike, but things move on. I've ridden pretty much every gs/GS and the 1150 is the one for me.
I find the electronics detract from the new bike. If I can get to ride a non electric version I may be tempted, but then it's alot of money to lose my license a little bit quicker
It's interesting to see that some have ordered basic bikes, I think they will possibly have the better bike (especially if they ordered wire wheels).
The test bikes are always high spec to fool you into thinking it's the way forward, plough your own furrow and don't be duped into spending 2k on extras. Only my opinion, but might make some one about to order think twice before ticking every extras box
Having owned both models I sit firmly in the 'post 1150' (something missing) camp. Currently ride a TC and will probably chop in for a WC in a couple of years.
However I agree that most of the electronics are pointless. I specced my TC with ABS and heated grips only, and don't regret that decision for a moment. When I change the bike I'll do the same.
People shouldn't fall for the salesman's pitch that 'you'll never sell it' if you don't pay £2k+ extra for all the bells and whistle. Complete bollox imo. I for one would prefer a basis model every time. Never had problems selling previous GS (1150 and 1200) with no extras.
However I agree that most of the electronics are pointless. I specced my TC with ABS and heated grips only, and don't regret that decision for a moment. When I change the bike I'll do the same.
People shouldn't fall for the salesman's pitch that 'you'll never sell it' if you don't pay £2k+ extra for all the bells and whistle. Complete bollox imo. I for one would prefer a basis model every time. Never had problems selling previous GS (1150 and 1200) with no extras.
Davy F
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Davy F
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I'm wondering if I would spec the KTM 1190 Adv with the electro trickery suspension. It's only another £500 and IMO, it does make a difference both on road and off. But just how complicated is it if it goes tits up and how expensive to sort ?
It's interesting to see that some have ordered basic bikes, I think they will possibly have the better bike (especially if they ordered wire wheels).
Nah the only time the basic bike will become a better buy is when the warranties ran out at that stage i think the TE could become very expensive if it went wrong, but than peeps always want extras abs and so on so i think resale value will be stronger in the long term.
However till than if it goes wrong ill just take it back its under warranty and i plan to exchange mine before it ends maybe for the adv .
I agree wire wheels are deffo better looking i regret not having them now and for sure the electronics are waisted on me, I've set the clocks to the configure i want to see I've used the cruise now and again but everything else I've left alone and just ride it.
I hope your joking! All the electronics it had couldn't stop the worst case of fork dive I've felt since riding my brothers Super Dream in the 80s!
Davy F
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You've just summed it up, you don't use all the stuff now
You'd have been better off with ABS, heated grips and spokes
Saved yerself probably £2k too
Resale value won't be stronger.
They'll always be people who specifically do not want all the extraneous and superfluous add ons and the potential problems they bring on a used bike that's out of warranty.
And the less of those bikes around means a healthy market.
You've just summed it up, you don't use all the stuff now
You'd have been better off with ABS, heated grips and spokes
Saved yerself probably £2k too
Spot on
After 2 years, the difference in resale value between a fully spec'd bike and a basic is in proportion to how much it all cost in the first place. As the bike gets older the differential gets less and less. At the point the bike gets out of warranty the added on extra's start to become more of a hindrance to a sale as people get wise to the cost of replacement and the sort of people who buy 2-5 year old bikes are much more difficult to persuade when it comes to any benefit argument versus the cost/replacement of the added on extras.
alp
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Spot on
After 2 years, the difference in resale value between a fully spec'd bike and a basic is in proportion to how much it all cost in the first place. As the bike gets older the differential gets less and less. At the point the bike gets out of warranty the added on extra's start to become more of a hindrance to a sale as people get wise to the cost of replacement and the sort of people who buy 2-5 year old bikes are much more difficult to persuade when it comes to any benefit argument versus the cost/replacement of the added on extras.
Who freaking cares about resale value you bunch of moaners.
I want it all and I want it now!
Got it actually.
Have a nice day worrying while the rest of us get on with our lives.
That is exactly what I have found, I have had no issues trading in my previous 'vanilla' 1200's for a satisfactory deal - yes they don't command as high a trade in value because there are fewer toys but they maintain their value proportionally as well if not better than a fully loaded bike.
You can always tell when it's an old GS arriving in the Pub car park as the whining carries on after the engine has been switched off.
An old old joke about old GS's in a new modern section. Irony as art.
You also get this with BMW cars. The extras cost a fortune and add fwck all to the value of the motor a few years down the line. This is how they boost their profits.
Useful extras like ABS are a no cost option - the rest is bling
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