Delboy777
Registered user
2D dash has gone down in price though
Sent from my SM-G925F using Tapatalk
2D, whats that
Rattling engine and seizing exhaust flap.
- Thread starter Mark Hooton
- Start date
2D, whats that
HP2 /HP4 dash.2D, whats that
I should buy them all up and corner the market
Sent from my SM-G925F using Tapatalk
Mark Hooton
Cymarcbikeparts
I suspect the manufacturing price is massively different to the retail price
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I know I've posted this a few times now.. but Ford make the 1 ltr 3 cylinder engine for their cars for under £100 now!.. how much do we thing the GS engine costs?.. can't be much more in the volume they make...
Just out of interest, I've been looking at known faults with the Aprilia Caponord....known serious reliability issues? Zero...nada, nothing. Great finish and great bike. The latest marque is a cracker and had I known about it before buying the GSA, I'd have had one in a heartbeat. It appears to be one of those Aprilias (like many of the older Gen1 Aprilias) that slip past the net and are overlooked, but in truth are bang-on first time round. The Shiver was I believe the first production bike to run fully fly by wire throttle, the RSV Mille the first to introduce Radial brakes and the adaptive suspension on the new 1200 Caponord is meant to be the best on the market. If Aprilia can do it, so should BMW be able to do it with much higher sales/income. Personally, I believe BMW bikes to be hideously overpriced new. Don't get me wrong, I love riding them and they have improved bit by bit as an evolutionary process to arrive at the best selling ADV bikes, but others, like the much smaller Aprilia seem to be able to present us with just as capable and well equipped a bike that costs £6K less that offers almost just as much with far fewer issues. I'm not going to fall into the trap of being an apologist for the GSA even though I love the thing. Loyalty has to be earned. That to me means the number of trouble free miles I can cover with me doing my bit to look after it. The greater the mileage, the more I'll trust it. Not enough to judge right now after just a year of ownership.
Not sure if the Capo is imported into the uk anymore. Last time I spoke with Aprilia people they had only shifted 14 total in the uk for that year and were considering not importing it. It has had some electrical issues and I’m told by those who had ridden it that it lacked the bottom end of Other adventure bikes. Although that might appeal if you want a bit more of a sports power band.
Cost of engine: The *retail* value of my 30K mile 2 year old R1200GS TE was greater than the cost of a replacement engine, so I got the replacement engine. This was via the paid-for insured warranty rather than the OEM warranty.
I don't think it is; the skyhook suspension was amazing and far in advance of anyone else's offerings for the time.
But, it was a bit like the varadero looked the part but you wouldn't really try to take it off road.
Just imagine an 1100 V4 off roader, it'd piss on KTM and Ducati.
Sent from my SM-G925F using Tapatalk
How many take their GS bikes off road? I have no interest in that. It's not the bike for off road work unless your name is Kevin Carmichael. There are plenty of Caponords for sale currently, used, up to 2017 and low miles examples at bargain prices. Had I the room, I'd happily house any one of them.
Stupid as I am, even I wouldn't take a Capo off road, but I do with a gsa.
Sent from my SM-G925F using Tapatalk
I've only taken mine off road a few times after I bought it last year and that convinced me that whilst fire trails and loose stone tracks are fine, as are some green lanes, proper off road over difficult terrain I'll leave to the more experienced who'd shod their bikes with more appropriate tyres for the job. For off road stuff locally, I have my mate's little single cylinder enduro bike I can use. The Capo should be capable, but it's CoG won't be as low as the GSA...but should be way better than my old Explorer 1200 which was just downright scary off road!
I bought my GSA for road touring. As such the Capo should be every bit as capable and is by all accounts far more reliable and better made. The RSVs were certainly more robust than my GSA. Prefer the looks of the GSA to the Capo though. I'd imagine that the Capo's motor would be very similar in character to my old RSV Mille R. Lovely Vee twins with what for me always seemed the ideal balance of power and torque for a sporty road bike. Did a few longish tours on my old RSV. Only pain was limited range (140ish miles) and I only had a poor soft luggage set for it which lasted only one tour. Used a rucksack and stuff-sacks strapped to the back after that. Not ideal. That's another tick for the GSA...the Capo only seems to average 30mpg for 150-ish range which whilst ok leaves little in reserve for a serious touring bike.
I bought my GSA for road touring. As such the Capo should be every bit as capable and is by all accounts far more reliable and better made. The RSVs were certainly more robust than my GSA. Prefer the looks of the GSA to the Capo though. I'd imagine that the Capo's motor would be very similar in character to my old RSV Mille R. Lovely Vee twins with what for me always seemed the ideal balance of power and torque for a sporty road bike. Did a few longish tours on my old RSV. Only pain was limited range (140ish miles) and I only had a poor soft luggage set for it which lasted only one tour. Used a rucksack and stuff-sacks strapped to the back after that. Not ideal. That's another tick for the GSA...the Capo only seems to average 30mpg for 150-ish range which whilst ok leaves little in reserve for a serious touring bike.
Mark Hooton
Cymarcbikeparts
Better quality, cheaper but poor mpg and range. Mmmm
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I believe the mk2 Capo is frugalar and reliability was never a problem with my SP, shame you couldn't say the same about the dealer's.
Sent from my SM-G925F using Tapatalk
Yep...dealers are notoriously thin on the ground and there's only one guy in the UK I'd trust with any Aprilia....Griff from Performance Aprilia in Tamworth...top bloke and will travel anywhere in the UK to service your bike at home. Whilst Griff's still in business I'd never be put off owning any Aprilia.
SP was a lovely bike Tradtors are go.
Had the offer of one about 8 or 9 years back for sensible money but took up the offfer of a minty and un-messed with Edwards Replica Gen 1 instead. Best bike I ever owned in terms of smiles per mile. Bomb proof reliable too and still quick enough compared with some modern stuff (in the real world and not on a race track). I think the Edwards Rep was 147 BHP at the crank which back in 2004 when it was released was a lot of Vee twin BHP for a litre bike and 15BHP up on even the RSVR. Didn't pull as hard low down though due to the full twin factory system and a very long first gear.
SP was a lovely bike Tradtors are go.
Had the offer of one about 8 or 9 years back for sensible money but took up the offfer of a minty and un-messed with Edwards Replica Gen 1 instead. Best bike I ever owned in terms of smiles per mile. Bomb proof reliable too and still quick enough compared with some modern stuff (in the real world and not on a race track). I think the Edwards Rep was 147 BHP at the crank which back in 2004 when it was released was a lot of Vee twin BHP for a litre bike and 15BHP up on even the RSVR. Didn't pull as hard low down though due to the full twin factory system and a very long first gear.
Agree, Griff is The Man for Aprilia.
Edwards and Haga had bigger throttle bodies and exhaust iirc.
Mine was the Cosworth engine, rare as hens teeth, sold for more than I paid for it though.
Futura was a bike ahead of its time too.
Sent from my SM-G925F using Tapatalk
Haga and Edwards were not the same though. The Haga had a different chipset (for the twin system) and the factory Akra exhausts over the RSVR but used the same twin injector heads and piston/conrod set up as the RSVR. It was basically a fancy RSVR with different decals and a twin system plus chip. Edwards Rep had major changes including uprated and tougher con-roads, larger valves, a 4-spray injector system per cylinder, bigger throttle bodies, larger air box and intakes (Haga used the same ones as the RSVR) and out of the crate was the most powerful of the Mk1 RSV Milles. SP/cossy I know was capable of 150+ BHP, but Griff always reckoned not out of the crate as it took a lot of tuning and setting up compared with the Eddy rep. Sublime chassis though by all accounts. Never got to ride an SP. Fast appreciating bikes, both the SP and a good honest Eddy rep (very few about these days). Sold mine for what I paid some 6 years later. Never liked the Futura's sharp angles but admired them for trying!
The Edwards basically was a gen2 motor in a gen1 chassis. The gen2 rods were mainly focused on better oil flow to the shells which was a problem on tracked gen1’s. The 57tb were a mixed blessing as they added in places and took away in others. Preferred the delivery of the 54,s myself
Anyone with an sp has to tread carefully now. Most of the internals have long since become unavailable. Griff has one with a blown motor that is in effect a write off as no parts available to fix it.
Anyone with an sp has to tread carefully now. Most of the internals have long since become unavailable. Griff has one with a blown motor that is in effect a write off as no parts available to fix it.
Mark Hooton
Cymarcbikeparts
Sorry to drag back onto topic guys, but.................
Sorry to drag back onto topic guys, but.................
The dealer rang today to advise that the motheship has authorised a replacement engine. Which, I guess, is good news and I guess I must speak highly of the dealership as they didn`t fob me off "they all do that sir"............
To be fair, after an initial hiccup I must say that generally I am very very pleased with how the dealership has resonded - it`s my hope to increase my business with them if they keep that up!
Here`s the rub, there`s no engines available (and they don`t know when any will be)..................
Let the conspiracy theories roll
Sorry to drag back onto topic guys, but.................
The dealer rang today to advise that the motheship has authorised a replacement engine. Which, I guess, is good news and I guess I must speak highly of the dealership as they didn`t fob me off "they all do that sir"............
To be fair, after an initial hiccup I must say that generally I am very very pleased with how the dealership has resonded - it`s my hope to increase my business with them if they keep that up!
Here`s the rub, there`s no engines available (and they don`t know when any will be)..................
Let the conspiracy theories roll
Delboy777
Registered user
Sorry to drag back onto topic guys, but.................
The dealer rang today to advise that the motheship has authorised a replacement engine. Which, I guess, is good news and I guess I must speak highly of the dealership as they didn`t fob me off "they all do that sir"............
To be fair, after an initial hiccup I must say that generally I am very very pleased with how the dealership has resonded - it`s my hope to increase my business with them if they keep that up!
Here`s the rub, there`s no engines available (and they don`t know when any will be)..................
Let the conspiracy theories roll
You need to insist on a loan bike in the meantime. Thats what i would be doing.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Similar threads
